My Conclusion: Windows 10 Sucks!

Everyone has a different way of accepting new tech or dealing with old tech, though we are all experienced techs we may all go about doing things differently and I think that's great! It makes for a diverse forum.

 

I could not agree more. The other thing we all have to realize is real techs can hear something check into it and then spin on an opinion just that fast because we basically all want progress but individually we need to think that whatever this new thing is, is progress. While we are thinking someone may also be changing or upgrading what we are thinking about and that is all a part of the process!

 

OK IE and FF still have, Media Player I never use, This PC? Ms Office, Control Panel, My Documents, Downloads, Videos, Pictures, or any basic Window, they're gone.
On the program menu where is "This PC", "Network"," Control Panel" and then all regular program listings is a rats nest under "All Apps with no rhyme nor reason to how they are set up and no ability to sort them. Oh and our "bone" 5 Most Used Apps. The whole thing is an insult Pete to our intelligence. It's an excuse to push their crappy Metro piece of crap all over again because they know few were using it. They have ;earned nothing from all the complaints.

 

BTW based on another rotten night of annoyances at Paltalk I reverted my All-in-One pc to 8.1 and am actually happy to be back. Along with that went all the issues too unit is running great! I'll be back when they fix that mess!

 

Actually I wasn't talking about placing them on the menu Pete, I was talking about "File, View, Edit, Tools, Help"
on those folders.

 

Actually a 'right click' context menu.

 

Well Windows 8 / 8.1 is still a relatively new operating system. I know you like it Rich-M and I know you have recently championed this operating system as your new de-facto or should I say your new go-to operating system on one of your play around PC's I think it was the Dell AIO. Maybe you can work up a windows 8 guide in the windows 8 section. About the tool/file/edit etc. toobar functions in widows 10 I do understand that you are feeling left out. Myself just from playing around within 5 minutes of using the operating system I figured that out but then again I am a very adept user different folks have certain handicaps or they get to things slower. Everyone goes about it at their own speed but usually we all get to the same place in the end.

 

hell I don't even know how I got windows 10 this is total crap!!! I have a system I bought how can I easily get rid of this crap....

I just want to go back hell it installed and then updated and now my games and I get a constant reboot this is something else. I am very upset!

 

Just roll back. You don't have to reinstall anything.

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/how-to/windows/how-downgrade-windows-10-to-windows-7-8-easy-3615606/

 

That's what I was thinking, Starbuck. Windows10 just doesn't install itself without user intervention.
The way I read Guzman's post he had a previous version of Windows and Windows10 installed itself.

 

I think the user doesn't realize he installed it. I have a few clients that called me up the same way claiming "I have no idea how this thing got in here". "Hell it installed and updated" has to be an Update of Windows 10 guys.

 

Yes it installed but it seems it was because I was unaware of what I was clicking on and how to properly delay the installation of windows 10. By reading this forum though and some other threads I understand how to do that now however I did just replace the motherboard and even with Windows 10 installed it's working really well .... I also was reading some other threads about tweaking up on the privacy settings here in the forums so I think I am set!

 

That is good to hear!

 

My own thoughts on W10 are a bit changed honestly. I do like the OS in a basic sense but the default settings concerning privacy are not good. The IU has to be manipulated to look anywhere near as decent as Windows 7. I am not having any issues at all with the operations of it and I'm able to do all the things I could before. It seems faster, although I bet that is more of a "placebo" effect, and given that there is no Aero running. I have been able to trim out the apps I don't want to see, and make it so that the notification panel rarely shows anything.

 

Ok can we take the new OS "super tech" out of the formula here and go back to finding reasons why an ordinary needs Windows 10, other than the fact that in 5 years support ends for Windows 7 because that is not a valid reason for using Windows 10 today.

I have always believed that we update to a new OS because of several reasons:
1) New hardware requires it and old hardware won't work as well on old OS, or new hardware won't work as well on old OS.
2) The new OS does things for us the old one does not do
3) The new OS is demonstrably faster and makes it easier and faster to do the basic things we do on a pc today

If I have bought no new hardware that will not work with Windows 7, and I am not aware of any new hardware that won't, and there is nothing I can do on Windows 10 I cannot do on Windows 7, and it is no faster and makes nothing easier, then I really don't need it.
In fact most of what I said actually has the reverse true. Using Windows 10 add steps to most common functions, the OS is not faster in my experience and in the case of my computers it was demonstrably slower and I love my hardware that I just built this computer with.

When all is said and done then the only real reason to upgrade to Windows 10 I can see is to long run make more money for Microsoft as it enables them to go forward with their plans for subscription based operating systems when the only OS left around 7-8 years from now is Windows 10 and Apple continues with their 4% of the total usage of computers and Linux with 7%. I don't see how that is in my best interests.

 

Ok above I was speaking in generalities now here is a specific.
Yesterday I was teaching a 77 year old man and 67 year old woman how to download pictures from a camera card, save them on their computer, and then burn them to a cd. Now used to Windows 8 I was showing them how to put the card in and find the pictures then hold down shift on the first one and then scroll to the last one and highlight it thus highlighting all the photos. Then click inside one highlighted photo choose "edit" "copy" and then make a new folder, name it and "edit" "paste" inside the folder. I was having so much trouble as they were both writing down what I said as I said it fearing they would never remember and they just for some reason could not grasp "hold down shift" and scroll to the bottom. So I then said OK how about highlight the first one then hold down "ctrl" and left click each photo adding them up as you go which they could grasp when it hit me, wait a minute we are in Windows 7. I told them to cross all that out, open the folder on the card, hit "edit" "select all" and then open the new folder and hit "edit" "paste" and they both grasped it immediately and said why didn't you tell me that in the first place. I then had to explain that in Windows 8, 8.1 and 10 "edit" "select all" no longer exists and the wife said to me "why in the newer OS would they make it so many more steps to do something?
I could not answer the question intelligently so I avoided it.